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Set of 3 Civil War Era Antique Revolvers - Philadelphia Deringer (.41 Caliber) and (2) Allen Thurber 6 Shot Percussion Revolvers (.31 Caliber)
Guns International #: 100614597 Seller's Inventory #:
Category: Civil War Revolvers - Antique Pepperbox
Seller's Information
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Seller: Seaside
Member Since: 10/11/15
State: Florida
Zip: 32952
Country: United States
Phone: 3218488428
Seller: Private Seller
Return Policy: 3 day inspection and return policy on used guns.
Payment Types Accepted: Check
Description:
For sale is a set of 3 Civil War Era antique guns, (2) Allen Thurber Pepperbox Percussion Revolvers and (1) Philadelphia Deringer. These guns are being sold as a set. They were taken to a local reputable gun appraiser. I will accept a personal check and wait for it to clear before shipping.
The following is the description provided by the appraiser for each of the guns:
#1 - Allen Thurber Six Shot Percussion Revolver
Valued $ 1,900.00
Manufacturer: Allen Thurber Worcester Mass
Model / Type: #3 Worcester Bag Style Percussion Revolver
Aprox Manufacture Date: Constructed from the 1845 patent
This model manufactured between 1847 to 1850. (Note barrel stamped at Muzzle)
Barrel: 4in, 6 shot, Flat ribbed flute
Caliber: .31 Ball
Unique Features of the Bag Style:
Shrouded nipple housing
Double Action
Transitional type Rose and Vine Pattern engraving on
frame, shield and hammer (i.e. early model)
Barrel and frame constructed of solid cast steel
Condition:
This gun has all its original patina and some mild
pitting on the barrel surface.
Lettering is visible.
Engraving very prevalent and discernable.
Ivory type grips
Bores are very good
Working order is crisp and clean positive action.
Estimated values of similar examples and references were gathered from Flaydermans, Blue Book, Standard Catalog of Firearms, South Carolina Military Museum, Civil War Collectables, and Guns International. Concluding that a conservative estimate of this gun is $1,900.00. Note a premium consideration for the mechanical function, early transitional engraving (Rose and Vine) and ivory type grips. This was an early manufactured # 3 Bag Type 1847 to 1850.
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#2 - Allen Thurber Six Shot Percussion Revolver
Valued $ 1,000.00
Manufacturer: Allen Thurber Worcester Mass
Model / Type: #3 Worcester Bag Style Percussion Revolver
Aprox Manufacture Date: Constructed from the 1845 patent
This model manufactured between 1855 to 1860. (Note barrel stamped at breech)
Barrel: 4in, 6 shot round flute
Caliber: .31 Ball
Unique Features of the Bag Style:
Shrouded nipple housing
Double Action
Later models usually not engraved
Barrel and frame constructed of solid cast steel
Condition:
Has been buffed to a polished finish, with minor letter
erosion on the A in Allen.
The grips are walnut and have a fine lacquered finish.
The bores are exceptional, machine marks still present
possibly never fired.
Function is like new crisp and positive lending credit to
the possibility that is a never fired gun.
Estimated values of similar examples and references were gathered from Flaydermans, Blue Book, Standard Catalog of Firearms, South Carolina Military Museum, Civil War Collectables, and Guns International. Concluding that a conservative estimate of this gun is $1,000.00. Note a premium consideration for the mechanical function.
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#3 - Philadelphia Deringer
Valued $ 2,300.00
Manufacturer: Philadel AKA Philadelphia Deringer
Model / Type: # 7 small pocket deringer
Aprox Manufacture Date: 1850 to 1870 Flowering Pineapple over
leaves and crest
Barrel: 2 ½ in 7 groove
Caliber: .41 Ball
Unique Features of the: #7 Deringer
Black walnut wood stock birds head style
German silver mountings, gold sidelock rest
Gold banded breech plug P marked
This model not made with ramrod
Condition:
This gun has some minor scratches on the upper barrel
The wood has some finish issues but has good solid lines
and checkering with no cracks or intrusions.
All metal showing original patina
Engraving very prevalent and discernable on hammer
sidelock and adornments
Bore is fair and lands are all visible
Lock and trigger mechanism is crisp and works well.
Estimated values of similar examples and references were gathered from Flaydermans, Standard Catalog of Firearms, South Carolina Military Museum, Civil War Collectables, and Guns International. Concluding that a respective estimate of this gun is $2,300.00. Adding the note that this is a model with the gold banded breech lug and other gold adornments.
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Additional information on the gun history:
Allen Thurber Six Shot Percussion Revolver
The Ethan Allen Worcester #3 Bag Style revolver was one of the most popular pepperboxes of all time. They competed with Colt models 1849 Pocket and 1851 Navy Revolvers for over a decade rivaling in sales and quality .They were widely used in America and Mexico ,however they were very popular in the Civil War also known as “The War Of Northern Aggression” by both the North and South. The frame and barrels were constructed from solid cast steel making them a very robust and durable firearm. All of the # 3 types were made from the 1845 patent and came in varying lengths and calibers. The came with many styles of engraving from floral designs to ornate scroll patters or some times none at all. Note that later models had no engraving at all due to the lack of manpower due to the war. An entire volume could be written about the variations of the Allen Thurber pepperboxes some times being noted that it was the gun that won the East. Only six-barrel pepperbox pistols were produced during the Grafton and Norwich periods (1837-1847), and all had smooth barrels until the later Worchester and Allen and Wheelock periods, when fluted barrels became the norm. Six-barrel pepperboxes usually had a standard trigger, but some examples have a ring trigger. Most were double-action with the iconic 'bar hammer', but some were single-action with standard hammers. While simplifying shooting (no manual cocking of the hammer), the bar hammer did preclude the inclusion of usable sights. However, this early example of a double-action pistol must have been quite a selling point. As these were considered 'point and shoot' short range defensive weapons or 'belly guns', the market did not seem to object to the limitation of not having sights. Barrel length varied between three and six inches. There were four frame sizes, accommodating various calibers. Most common were .32 and .34 caliber, though the .28 and .30 caliber 'pocket size' have been reported. The 'Dragoon' model was the king, typically sporting six-inch barrels and .36 calibers. Except for early models and later Allen and Wheelock era production, most have beautiful engraving on the frame.
Philadelphia Deringer
The Philadelphia Deringer was a small percussion handgun designed by Henry Deringer (1786–1868) and produced from 1852 through 1868. A popular concealed carry handgun of the era, this pocket pistol design was widely copied by competitors, sometimes down to the markings. All were single barrel pistols with back action percussion locks, typically .41" rifled bores, and walnut stocks. Barrel length varied from 1.5" to 6", and the hardware was commonly a copper-nickel alloy known as "German silver". The back action lock was a later, improved design among locks, which had its spring and mechanism located behind the hammer, where it was thereby protected from dirt, fired cap residue, and gunpowder residue unlike earlier front action locks that had their springs and mechanism located directly in the path of such residue in front of the hammer, under the tube. It is estimated that 15,000 Pocket Deringers were made in all but the #7 being the last model of this style there were fewer than 5,000 were introduced while the Civil War was in full swing . Intriguingly enough a left hand twist model of the #7 was used assassinate Abraham Lincoln, thus changing our country’s history forever. Truly a gun that changed the world.
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Antique: Yes